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  Is saying "I don't want to be a Jehovah's Witness anymore" enough?

  by DuvanMuvan in

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  i was just wondering.

  say you were baptised and stopped going to the meetings, when the elders and people ask why can you just say you don't want to be a jw anymore without giving a reason?

  i mean it's not like they can force it out of you and you aren't necessarily spreading lies or whatever they say apostates do.. if anything they'll have to keep talking to you to find an actual reason to df you so if you're literally as vague as possible then what basis do they have?

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  If you say it, they will come. OR they will ask you to write it down. OR they will ask you to tell 2 of them in person. OR if they are really lazy, they will simply ask to see if 2 separate people heard you, give you a chance to comment, then they will dispose of you.

  It doens't take much...Make sure you are ready if you do say those words.

  One thing I have learned, witnesses will spend literally millions of hours looking for people to join the fun, but take miserably little effort in encouraging you to stay. That is what multi-level marketing is about...it's about numbers.

  Sorry for your plight,

  SOP
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  Atheists I have a question....and some comments on spirituality (possible ranting may follow)

  by Jon Preston in

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  ok i just thought about this because its been in the back of my mind deep in the subconscious goop where i store many a curious thing:.

  what is spirituality to an atheist?

  what is its meaning?

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  Kindness and compassion are my spiritual center. I need no God to be kind or compassionate. In fact, some of the most unkind things I have seen or heard have been from "believers." I think what Jesus said in Luke 17:21, "the kingdom of God is within you and around you" is the most powerful expression he stated. If the kingdom is inside me and inside you then wouldn't it be here...now, "around" us?

  As I have mentioned, I have moved to a center of agnosticism. I believe that there are some tremendous lessons to be learned as taught by Jesus, the Buddha, Muhammad, I don't have to believe in God to necessarily benefit from them do I?

  SOP
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  Oh my God. Was my prayer answered???

  by quellycatface in

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  anyway, he applied for a lecturer's job at a college last week.

  he had a phone call today inviting him for an interview.. i'm kind of in shock.

  when we left 10 years ago, i was so upset after.

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  I don't think it was God at all! I think it was the fact that your husband's resume or curriculum vitae distinguishes him from other candidates and they want to get a closer look. If anything, I would suggest you tell your husband how thankful you are that he has worked so hard and is considered to be the caliber of person that they might want to hire. By doing that, your regard, respect and love for your husband are greatly expanded. It will add to your relationship.

  To attribute to God those things that are inherently of Man is to minimize the suffering of a mother that prays for food as her child's belly expands from its want.

  Just a thought,

  SOP
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  Death threats and Hate mail from Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  are jws becoming radicalized?.

  exposing hypocritical jehovah's witnesses.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/178644278990236/.

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  There are always a few idiots with any group. I would not bundle all JW's into that hate group. Most JW's seem to have a spiritual Asperger-like syndrome, too distant to really even care about people.
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  New Watchtower Article: "Morals Without God?"

  by cognisonance in

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  ...or rather what you wouldn't find in a watchtower .

  morals without god (new york times article).

  can we envision a world without god?

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  Yeah, don't recall ever reading this in a JW publication.

  "You need God SO you need us" has always been the WT creed.
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  Our 10th Wedding Anniversary today.

  by quellycatface in

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  hello everybody peeps.. i got married out of the troof.

  they said it wouldn't last etc.. hasn't been easy.

  my hubs is still my best buddy.. and i ain't a jw no more.

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  Congratulations!!! It is always nice to squelch the naysayers! Nothing like being successful to shut people up!

  Sounds like something my nephew told my wife, "You don't have to be a witness to have a happy marriage or be happy!"
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  The Christian versus the Agnostic

  by Separation of Powers in

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  i think by most accounts, my previous posts have testified to my moving towards an agnostic stance.

  i just don't know and i can't believe for belief's sake.

  i came across a quote i thought quite timely in my journey.. .

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  Now, don't get me wrong. I am ALL for belief systems where they serve to anchor man to a set of ideals and ethics that will keep him from harming others or himself. If it helps the believer and does not harm others, than by all means, be my guest to believe as you would like. The issue here is a question of belief versus knowing. That was the intent of the Ingersoll's quote noted above.
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  The Christian versus the Agnostic

  by Separation of Powers in

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  i think by most accounts, my previous posts have testified to my moving towards an agnostic stance.

  i just don't know and i can't believe for belief's sake.

  i came across a quote i thought quite timely in my journey.. .

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  @Terry

  I don't know if I quite agree with your analogy. The first little old lady is delusional as she "thinks" that she has money in her account. There is no security in that. In fact, if she tried to pay her bills, her checks would bounce. The latter, however, knows not to write the check, because he is unsure.

  There is only one thing that we can totally be sure of...that we do not know. Of that I am positive. I would like to add my own analogy...

  The Christian is like the child that is good cause he believes Santa has a list of those naughty and nice.

  The Agnostic is like the child that is good for goodness sake and doesn't know if Santa exists, but because he is good, will get presents anyway.

  SOP
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  The Christian versus the Agnostic

  by Separation of Powers in

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  i think by most accounts, my previous posts have testified to my moving towards an agnostic stance.

  i just don't know and i can't believe for belief's sake.

  i came across a quote i thought quite timely in my journey.. .

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  @ jam

  Yeah, it's just like when I was a teenage witness. I knew absolutely everything about everything!!!
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  The Christian versus the Agnostic

  by Separation of Powers in

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  i think by most accounts, my previous posts have testified to my moving towards an agnostic stance.

  i just don't know and i can't believe for belief's sake.

  i came across a quote i thought quite timely in my journey.. .

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  I think by most accounts, my previous posts have testified to my moving towards an agnostic stance. I just don't know and I can't believe for belief's sake. I came across a quote I thought quite timely in my journey.

  "The Christian says that he has knowledge: the agnostic admits that he has none; and yet the Christian accuses the Agnostic of arrogance."

  I think this pretty much sums up where I am at. For most of us, to question things of faith is considered arrogance or pride. Little do they know that it is the truest mark of humility.

  Just don't know....Just don't know. You know what I do know? I am now totally ok with NOT knowing.

  SOP